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The design is fantastic. Being able to take portable Desktop power with you on the road is crazy, as is the amount of thunderbolt ports it has.

But for me, the easiness of installing new Hard drives and the easiness of customizing (and really building your own from scratch) / upgrading a PC is still unparalleled. Take into account the fact that a lot of my favorite VSTis are free on PC and not even available on OSX, PC will still win. Plus, I haven’t even looked at the price tag of the Pro and don’t really want to, haha.

Absolutely getting one. I have an early 2008 MacPro. I’m a video editor and I’ve been holding out for an upgrade—The time has come!

i wont be getting one, but could easily use one with what i do. that being said, the modular angle is the biggest part of this whole deal. its a deal which is somewhat contentious to some old dogs, but really, at the end of the day, shouldnt be and they will just be steamrolled by those willing to advance. look at the whole fcp 7 vs fcp x debate years ago. that was silly and overblown. people are kind of finally over that one… its a pro machine, so its made really for the “yous and mes” of the world, so maybe we actually should be looking closer at these kinds of machines. as usual, a majority of whats said about any new thing really is a bunch of wank anyway, including any apple product, so look to the actual real types looking to buy this: who in my eyes will be people who own RED cameras. people willing to throw down real money on what is essentially an experiment which may render serious productivity.

Here’s how I see it:

Many people who will never buy one and who will never need a computer with that kind of power probably loath the exterior design.

Many people who will buy one and who do need a computer with that kind of power will see the exterior design as somewhat irrelevant to their end goal.

That’s not to say that non-buyers of it can’t appreciate it good product and industrial design. Maybe my opinion is based more on the comments on a CNN article, in which absolute morons claim that they could build a computer with the same power for 1/4 the price.

I’m totally with you, though, Scott. You’ve got to hand it to Apple for having the guts to just do something completely different with that product.

But yes, for the most part apple still manages to bring constant style and innovation throughout their design process, so kudos to that.

I need the power and I like the way it looks. I just hope we can get up to 2gb of SSD in it. The SSD specs are incredible, and my really big stuff (mostly video and audio archives) lives on an external RAID5 box now.

The 4K video support is huge. The CGI and editing community will likely be all over that. (It also means that you’ll effectively have a retina display on it with the proper monitor!)

everytime a new apple product is announced i start checking the web for the original design by Dieter Rams. It became a habbit and somewhat of a game. I think this is inspired by the cylindric lighter he made for Braun in 1968. But can aslo be the cofee grinder. :)

I’m kinda having a hard time understand all of this. (Apple) If you think of the perspective of all their products, they all kinda went “hand in hand” in their design, look and feel, etc. To see this how this has changed, I’m not sure if I like it or not. Small is cool, but round? Looks like it’s ready to take off. Perhaps it is, being that it’s faster then previous generations but I’m just not sure what to think of it, negative or positive. :/

Kinds reminds me of that Cube Apple made oh so long ago. Now they are Kleenex dispensers ;)

…yeah I’m torn on this new thing. There’s something about having 4 outboard PCIe cards with all their own enclosures and all their own power supplies that I just can’t get behind. I like what they did in a way, I like the modularity, but I also hate it. I have enough of a nightmare in wires behind my tower now, this just seems like it’ll be worse than ever. Also, I’m still confused on how they are going to get the x16 bandwidth over Thunderbolt 2. Change is good, but it’ll be a while before we see real pro solutions to this I think. Was also hoping for more processing power, as in something outrageous.

It’s Apple’s redo of the Cube, who’s form was gorgeous, but too advanced for it’s time. The components overheated and ultimately the consumer didn’t yet appreciate what Apple’s design finesse and saw the machine as a luxury. It’s great to see how much power they are able to pack into the new Mac Pro. Although, it seems to me that silver aluminum would have been more appropriate. Otherwise, it rocks. (And we can max out the RAM to 60gigs—omg.)

scott.
im on the same page when it comes to using a pc as a desktop and a macbook when it comes to live shows.
its really nice have what i call “the best of both worlds”
im also a pc gamer and a filmmaker and its nice have the ability to buy graphics cards and other customizable features. so rock on!

and am i looking at the pictures right?
is the new macpro like a cylinder? ha

Great to see Apple build these in the USA.

Personally, I’d rather have one of these with a cinema display than my iMac.

In order to get an elegant form factor and compact size, they had to defer expansion to the outside of the casing. One of the nice things about the previous behemoth was that it kept everything organized in a beautiful tower. The new Mac Pro exposes some of the mess with external hard drives and extra wires.

Size wise, it seems portable enough…but you still need to carry around a display monitor. It will be interesting to see how people use this…

I think it looks great and reminds me of something great as well. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMl5VUqCEAIDvWb.jpg

The design is so versatile!! :D https://www.facebook.com/WhatNewMacProShouldBe

Longtime Apple user but not fanboy. I thought the unveiling was great, and you have to give it to Apple for not being afraid to innovate. Once again Apple making waves in the industrial design world.

However, One of the first things I did after digesting it all was to go and check out the various Hackintosh options, and considering a switch to Windows or dual boot.

I’m just not sure about this new mac pro, and the AMD GPUs worry me as I’ll specifically be needing Nvidia for my apps (among others, doesn’t Adobe performance mostly benefit from Nvidia?). I like the idea of modular thunderbolt expandability, but I think it could get messy and irritating in real life. Keeping the devices, power and cables inside the box seems to be a nice neat solution.

I wont be an early adopter but will be watching with interest – perhaps Apple have thought all this through and this is their best-case scenario.

How much is this gonna cost?

And what will be the base RAM?

I have a feeling it will cost more to upgrade the new Mac Pro than to get the older one.

There’s an initial shock to the system for those who have been utilizing the Mac Pro’s existing expandability. I’m a CG artist in a Mac Pro studio and I was a little concerned about it myself. But if I, like some other workstation users, don’t entirely care about a smaller, sleeker form factor, what do I care about a few outboard enclosures and a couple extra wires? That’s if you need them. I don’t, all my work is accessed from the network, except for rare occasions when I bring it local. In a mixed environment of MacBook Pros, iMacs, and Mac Pros, it can be an advantage to have consistent external storage, ingest, and interface enclosures. Easier to share hardware and repurpose work stations as the need arrises. We use NVidia cards right now, so we’ll loose some CUDA advantages, but FCPX will take advantage of OpenCL on AMD’s chips for sure, and hopefully other companies like Adobe and Autodesk will better support it as well (and w/ Creative Cloud, it should be easier to deploy). No one likes having to upgrade or purchase new peripherals, but if you haven’t come to expect that when Apple reinvents one of their products, you haven’t learned yet.

As a working Graphic & Web Designer I’ve been very interested … and invested in the Apple side. I am a little insulated from upgrade fever, having recently gone in with Mac Pro… thanks, Adobe.

But a couple of thoughts first occurred to me. A moment of silence for Firewire and optical drives. Apple is just plain DONE with optical media, and is ALL IN with Thunderbolt.

As many folk have noticed that there is are advantages and downsides to zero internal expandability, other than RAM, and SSD, Processor and GPU configuration options. The guys with big investemnts of niche PCI cards are the most upset. But I realize that as a Designer, I have my stock GPU, and yes an internal RAID, but two external Firewire Drives too… Many pros won’t need the internal slots. What we DON’T know yet is how modular the GPU panels on the new wee beasite might be.

Apple is asking us to “Think Different” in a pretty big “Try it. We think you’ll love it” way. But I remember the howling when iMacs debuted with USB and Firewire and did away with Floppy Drives, Serial and SCSI connections, and had CD drives on board. There were virtually NO FW or USB devices on the shelves at the time.

I am guessing that they are hoping to nudge Thunderbolt peripherals along with this move. Heaven know that TB devices are damn costly, and hopefully with more volume and acceptance, this may change.

What has everybody twitchy, is that we don’t know configurations or pricing. “Later this year.”

Thanks, Intel.

Hi Scott,

I am a big fan of your work both as Tycho and as ISO50 for your Graphic Designs and your blog. I am an artist myself, who has done a lot of film, 3D animation, and graphic design projects via the Mac. I want to share with you how I feel about The New Mac Pro, as well as what I would want in the next version.

(1) Thoughts on the new Mac Pro

When designing the future of the pro desktop, the team at Apple chose to go the route of creating something that can recognized as a feat that only Apple could have designed. They wanted something to beautiful, from the inside out, that’s their mission for their company. They don’t want to make something out of plastic anymore, their done from that idea with the death of the plastic white MacBook, which was discontinued with the release of OS X Lion on July 20, 2011. They want to make something that would make the people over at Microsoft faint.

The internals are pretty nifty, but there are a couple things that I would have wanted to see:

1st: DDR4 SDRAM. 1866MHz is a good improvement from 1333MHz and even 1066MHz but something that would have blown the competition our of the water would have been introducing 32GB of 2500MHz DDR4 SDRAM, *Standard.

2nd: Removable PCIe Flash Storage. Just like the Retina MacBook Pros, the flash is soldered onto the motherboard. Isn’t the whole point of buying a Mac Pro is to upgrade it over time (internally), it seams that Apple gave 6 Thunderbolt 2 ports for external expansion, not internal. Cluttered desks here we come!

(2) Successor to the Mac Pro?

I’m guessing that Apple isn’t going down the iPod Touch route of skipping a generation, so we might see a product announcement for the successor December 2014. What I want to see as follows:

1st: The return of FireWire, (Firewire 800, as well as the next generation of FireWire codenamed: IEEE P1394d running at 6.4Gbit/s)

2nd: DDR4 SDRAM – 2500MHz or GDDR5 RAM

3rd: Skip Quad-Core and go full-out 8-Core Processing with 30MB of L3 Cache, if people wanted a good Quad-Core machine they would have bought an iMac.

3GHz Speed and Beyond, people like me do not understand why at a price-point of
$1,299, you are paying for a 2.7GHz Quad-Core iMac, with only 8GB RAM, and 512MB of GPU.

4th: The next Mac Pro should offer a 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor with 60MB L3 cache and 32GB of GDDR5 RAM.

Any other ideas?

-Connor

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